#94864 - 05/17/07 01:35 AM
Preparedness seminar put on by local Mormon church
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 03/13/05
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Loc: Colorado
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The Mormon church near my home is putting on a preparedness seminar this coming weekend. This sounds really interesting to me. Has anyone been to one of these? Is this a local thing or is it common for LDS churches? http://www.broomfieldenterprise.com/news/2007/may/16/lds-putting-faith-in-preparation/A short quote from that article: Local church members want to share the practical knowledge they have accumulated with the larger community. To that end, they are holding a preparedness fair Saturday in Broomfield.
Agencies participating include area fire and police departments, the Army and the Red Cross. Information booths will cover topics such as communications, food and water storage, emergency kits, surviving without electricity and organizing vital documents.
If anyone on these forums is in the Denver, CO area and is interested, the seminar runs 9am to 3pm on Sat May 19th, 1250 Main St. in Broomfield (per the printed newspaper version of the above article). It's free, and they're giving out some free CD on preparedness. I assume this is a come whenever, leave whenever type of thing, but the paper didn't specify. I think I'll attend.
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#94867 - 05/17/07 02:18 AM
Re: Preparedness seminar put on by local Mormon church
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Rapscallion
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Generally, most Mormons I've known have been well versed in matters such as these. It is a big part of their philosophy from what I know.
Bear in mind, such events are sometimes sponsored and presented for the added purpose of prostelytizing the faith. That shouldn't present a problem, but just so you know.
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#94877 - 05/17/07 02:55 AM
Re: Preparedness seminar put on by local Mormon church
[Re: benjammin]
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A side note, in some locations the Mormons have "canning places" (I don't recall exactly what they call them), where, for a very reasonable price, you can seal just about anything in #10 cans. Designed for canning foods of course, but money, boxes of ammo, all kinds of fun things can fit into a #10 can...
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#94880 - 05/17/07 03:15 AM
Re: Preparedness seminar put on by local Mormon church
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Cranky Geek
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My sister in law's parents are Mormons. I think you have to be a member to use their gear, and I think if you wanted to can ammo they'd be a little spazzy unless they REALLY knew you.
I just have this horrifying image of a can of rimfire ammo that gets mislabeled as beef stew. You poke a small hole or two in the top and without looking, you put it over the fire....
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#94883 - 05/17/07 03:37 AM
Re: Preparedness seminar put on by local Mormon ch
[Re: benjammin]
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Pooh-Bah
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such events are sometimes sponsored and presented for the added purpose of prostelytizing the faith I would expect some of that and wouldn't mind learning something more about their faith while I'm learning their thoughts on preparedness. Every Mormon I've known (not terribly many) has been someone I respected. I would expect any reasonable person to realize you can't sell a faith with undesirable pressure tactics, and not even attempt to. Explaining and teaching is welcome, hard code selling is not. I don't expect that anyway, and look forward to a fun day.
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#94884 - 05/17/07 03:49 AM
Re: Preparedness seminar put on by local Mormon church
[Re: ironraven]
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I have never done it, but a friend in central CA, says that he has canned all kinds of neato stuff there...
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#94887 - 05/17/07 03:57 AM
Re: Preparedness seminar put on by local Mormon church
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Journeyman
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Never tried ammo, but I have canned large amounts of food in #10 cans. You don't have to be a member to use the facilities. The church provides the resources (building and equipment) you buy the food and cans and provide the labor.
Let us know how the seminar turns out.
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#94901 - 05/17/07 12:12 PM
Re: Preparedness seminar put on by local Mormon church
[Re: weldon]
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Rapscallion
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Mistaking a can of ammo for a can of stew would be something. I have to think, though, that you'd be mighty suspicious when the can weighs three times what you expected it would.
Still, that sorta mistake is what makes elk camp more interesting...
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#94906 - 05/17/07 12:39 PM
Re: Preparedness seminar put on by local Mormon church
[Re: benjammin]
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Still, that sorta mistake is what makes elk camp more interesting... Great, now I have to call IT for a new keyboard after spraying coffee all over it
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#94908 - 05/17/07 01:12 PM
Re: Preparedness seminar put on by local Mormon church
[Re: benjammin]
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Geezer
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"...Mistaking a can of ammo for a can of stew would be something..."
Could be an intersting surprise. If I should ever do it, I like to think that I would remember to label the cans, something like ".22LR," ".357 125gr," "year supply of Viagra & KY," "$100,000 in small bills," you know, like that...
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#94910 - 05/17/07 01:15 PM
Re: Preparedness seminar put on by local Mormon church
[Re: haertig]
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Journeyman
Registered: 09/05/03
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Loc: Layton, Utah
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I am a Mormon. Live in the Salt Lake area. These preparedness fairs are pretty common. We have one each year and my 72 hour kits have been displayed there frequently.
The philosophy is to be prepared for the benefit of the family. That preparedness may come into play from a natural disaster or a personal disaster. I knew a family where they lost their employment and were able to live for months on their food storage until new employment was found.
The preparedness focuses on "at least a 1 year supply (of food, clothing, hygene items, etc.) to provide sustinance." And, as in the general population, not everyone is prepared for this so there is the philosophy that if we can get people to start with a 72-hour kit, it is a start and they build from there.
As far as the cannery (that is what they call them), they are part of a welfare system that the church has. Typically, they ask that you volunteer to work in the cannery and then you in turn can purchase the items that are canned.
They have 2 types of cannerys: dry-pack and wet-pack. In the dry-pack, dry items (e.g. sugar, dry milk, flour, potato pearls, dried fruits, beans, etc.) are placed in the #10 cans and sealed. I don't think they'd let you bring ammo in and can it (pretty sure they would not allow ammo in the food prep areas). But they do have a loaner, crank operated machine that seals up the cans. This can be borrowed and taken home so that you can do some of the canning at home. I've actually considered getting it and trying to "can" some ammo. As far as I know, they do not do beef stew in the #10 cans as they have no way to process (i.e., heat) it at the dry-pack. They did let me seal up an empty can once which I gave to my dad as a can of "dehydrated water". He got a kick out of that and still has it with his food storage to show off.
At the wet pack cannery, they do things like chilli, beef stew, jams, salsa, etc., but they usually do these items in smaller (14.4 oz) cans or in pint bottles. The wet pack is located at an entirely different facility. We (my wife and I) have both spent time in the canneries and use the items from there everyday as it tends to be a little cheaper than the grocery store. I actually have a can of chilli and 2 cans of beef stew right here in my desk that I helped can at the cannery. The work there is not hard, it is kind of assembly line and you have one or 2 tasks that you are asked to do. Pretty cool process really.
I'd suggest that you go and check out the preparedness fair. You may be able to find out about volunteering at the cannery and be able to take advantage of that. You may get some preparedness ideas although they seem to be more along the lines of getting people to start getting things together rather than for people who could already last 2 years and teaching them to stretch it into 5.
As far as the Mormon community goes, we seem to be pretty close knit. The Church provides a social structure that we rely on quite a bit. There is an emphasis in the Church for missionary work so proselytizing takes place and unfortunately some members become overbearing with that. Generally though, anyone is welcome to attend these type events, and any of the Sunday meetings for that matter. Good Luck.
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#94978 - 05/18/07 01:15 AM
Re: Preparedness seminar put on by local Mormon church
[Re: miner]
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Miner: Your explanation of the Mormon Church is right on. I being a Mormon was just readng this thread and trying to put a explanation togather in my head when I read your post. People wanting canning supplys can try www.beprepared.com located in Orem Utah.
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#94983 - 05/18/07 02:48 AM
Re: Preparedness seminar put on by local Mormon ch
[Re: OldBaldGuy]
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stranger
Registered: 05/17/07
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Loc: Kansas
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"year supply of Viagra & KY," ha ha I wouldn't need to label it. It would be right next to the year supply of sleeping pills.
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#95027 - 05/18/07 07:23 PM
Re: Preparedness seminar put on by local Mormon ch
[Re: haertig]
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Thanks Haertig!
I think I'll stop by, I live less than a mile away - small world!
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#95053 - 05/19/07 08:11 AM
Re: Preparedness seminar put on by local Mormon ch
[Re: sodak]
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Loc: Phx, AZ
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I am Catholic. When I asked to use the LDS cannery services, that never came up. I was given dates and times that my particular "area" could go do the cannery. The cannery is a warehouse of food. They give you a menu and you can purchase whatever and however much you want. Then you get into an assembly line with other people from your area and everybody cans everybodys food.
I call them LDS as if they are a different people. But, they are my friend. I am very thankful that I was allowed to use this service.
The amount of time, money and effort that the LDS church puts into preparedness is wonderful.
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#95088 - 05/20/07 12:27 AM
Re: Preparedness seminar put on by local Mormon ch
[Re: xavier01]
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Carpal Tunnel
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I wish the Catholic Church would get into the same groove.
The only priest that I know of who recommended preparations for the end times was forced to retire by the Arch-Diocese of New Orleans. He was given the choice of retirement or being committed to an institution, he chose retirement.
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