I personally believed (until a week ago) that Multi-Lite™ from Gerber was somewhat a failure. I got it as a Xmas gift and used it for a little while but since I always needed pliers Multi-Lite slowly faded away. At least until now... I was redesigning my PSK and found that right quality blade and other misc items take up a lot of space. Than I reminded my self about Multi-Lite Tool. I found it, dusted it off and it fits perfectly diagonally into my tin. It has all the blades I need, small LED light, scissors, screwdriver and small storage compartment for easy to lose items. It made my PSK little heavier but I think it's a good addition and well worth it. Just an idea... Also the reason I'm bringing it up is that I've seen Gerber Multi-Lite tools being sold for very cheap. There is no demand for those so dealers are trying to get rid of them. As a PSK tin I'm using one that came with my Windmill lighter. It is little deeper that typical Altoid tin.

I wonder why the Gerber line of multi-tools is not touted more on this forum. My tool of choice is the Gerber Scout. If you have to really torque something nothing works like a Gerber. LMs tend to dig into your hands??<br><br>Mariner.

Well your statement of LMs digging into your hands is correct except for the Wave and maybe the new Super Tool. About 6 years ago I was only buying and recommending Gerber due to above reason. Lately I use LM Wave (past 2 years) over Gerber because of blade accessibility. My old man still prefers Multi-Plier series over anything that is out there due to one hand pliers slide out function. Gerbers are great and when they came out with their Legend series I wanted to make Wave my back up tool. But my friend beat me to it and while kayaking/camping we were testing it and I was really amazed at least until the lunch time. I threw him three cans of stew to open and Gerber tool had no can opener! Hmmmm major problem if you ask me. Suddenly all the sweet functions such as spring loaded handles, interchangeable blades on the saw and wire cutter didn't mean anything. But personal tool is more of the matter of preference. It's not like one of them is better than another. Well some are but each company makes one that is outstanding and similar to competition. You just have to get bunch of them in one place and figure out which one you like the most. What I like about Gerber in general is that for $80 you can make your own personal tool with custom blade combination and special handle color. How cool is that? Still to end my morning rumbling in a good fashion: no matter how good your tool is it means nothing when you don't have it.<br><br>Matt<br>

Mariner,<br><br>Older Leathermans do tend to dig into your hand. The newer models (such as the Wave) don't. While I looked at the Gerber tools awhile back when I was irked at the Leatherman Corp., I didn't care for them. I hope the LM tools I have last until another maker comes up with a tool as good or better than the LM Wave, or until I can find a 5 splined security Torx bit.<br><br>Take care,<br><br>Andy

talking about multitools I have 2 cheap -ish ones. And the problem is they both dig into ur hand. I tried several things to make it less of a pain but nothing succesful. Any ideas? And while were @ the subject of knives does any one know what a good oil is to put on ur sharpening stone. I got a gd tip a year ago from a para but frogot it! thanx

Personally, I never wanted to get into the Leatherman/Gerber conversation. People have their preference, and that's fine. But...I have owned a Leatherman Wave, Leatherman Super-Tool, and for X-mas, my girl got me a Gerber 800 Legend. I LOVE this thing! I was never really impressed with Gerber's Multi-Tool line until I got this. No longer will I buy a Leatherman, as long as Gerber keeps this tool in their line-up. As a matter of fact, I can't remember using (or seeing) a Leatherman since I got the 800 Legend.<br><br>The things I like best about the Legend:<br>-Spring loaded pliers.<br>-Ability to rotate/change the wire-cutters.<br>-Ability to replace the saw blade with different styles for different wood. (It has been said that these blades are hard to find, however, there's tons of them at my local Sears Hardware store)<br>-All tools lock in place.<br>-"Aligator grips"<br>-Mine DOES have a can opener.<br><br>The only faults I find with it...it's a bit bulkier than the Leatherman tools. Also, the sheath isn't well thought out, but i've replaced it anyway. And I'm not too keen on the serrated blade...but so far it's beaten everything i've put it through.<br><br>John McIntire

hi,
i'am planning to buy a gerber 800 legend.
did you replace one of the screwdrivers with the can opener? and how?

greetings mike