#50094 - 09/24/05 02:15 AM
Re: Surefire Flashlights
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Ors, the L1 is a nice light, pretty large for a 1 cell light and maybe not so up to date any more. Depends what you want it for. Personally if I wanted a high end 1 cell 2 stage LED light I'd skip the L1 and get a McLux III PD which is a semi-custom light and just beautiful, though somewhat more expensive than an L1 ($200 to $250 depending on setup). That's still somewhat less than the lowest priced Sebenzas, to put it in context. In pure functional terms it works out about the same way: the PD is a just a flashlight and a Sebenza is just a pocket knife, and you can find alternatives that do the same job about as well for a tenth of the cost, just without the "ooh" factor. If you're a flashlight or knife buff, the PD and Sebenza are both exquisite and worth every cent.
If you're not into being a connoisseur and you just want a nice bright LED light of this general form factor, try a Nuwai Q3 at around $30. It's 1-level but there are 2-level mods for it over on CPF.
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#50095 - 09/24/05 02:22 AM
Re: Surefire Flashlights
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Registered: 06/29/05
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Loc: Arizona
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I have a number of Surefire; flashlights are an addiction to me. My everyday carry light is an A2, soon to be replaced by a L2, and I love it. The size is perfect, only when I put my hand in my pocket do I notice it is there.
I carried a 6P for years until I replaced it with a Z2 (Christmas present), later an E2E and finally my current A2. The 6P is a great light; very durable and reliable. Mine still sits at my bed side with the brighter bulb (P61) for emergencies. For those of you that are wondering, I own 6 surefire lights.
Now, Surefire lights are a great investment, however the aren’t for everyone. There are a number of lights on the market that work very well that aren’t quite as expensive, or use less expensive batteries. Some of them have been listed in this thread.
One that I like is the Pelican Stealthlight – 4AA light is pretty bright and very tough, one of these has resided in my turnout jacket pocket for years and has held up remarkably well. A few members of my crew have them attached to their helmets without issue. The Recoil 2410 is the LED version and just as reliable but a little brighter and longer running. I have replaced my G2 in my truck kit with one of these because of the AA batteries. These are a little big for an everyday carry light; however I did see someone with one on his belt today.
There are many lights out there today, most are pretty good. If you’re looking for an everyday carry light, and can afford it go with one of the Surefire personal carry size lights, the E2E sells for under $100 and the L2 is the most remarkable LED light I have found.
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#50096 - 09/24/05 02:29 AM
Re: Surefire Flashlights-try Dorcy?
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Some good points on this post. I have been on the never ending quest for a reasomable, reliable, long running, flashlight that i can depend on, and i think i have found it. I purchased a Dorcy Metal Led (1watt) from Walmart the other day (to beat all places) and it is one of the best flash lights i have used in a while. I've seen all the usual brands, with all their bells and whistles, and This one ranks pretty good in my book. Its a 1watt Led light, soild metal body (aluminum), very rugged build. It runs off 3 AAA batteries, and has a spot beam. The Beam projects around 100ft before dispersing. Run time so far(and i have ran the heck out of it on purpose) ...well im at least 30 hours roughly and still very bright ( note i am using just regular akalines too). Its seems to be sealed fairly well...i took my chances and dunked it a few times just to see. For the quality bulid, size, output, and compared to mags and your average LED light-its hard to beat. To sum it up it was under $20 bucks..........i know your thinking Dorcy? $20 ? Cheap right?..............judge for yourself..........if nothing I'm VERY impressed for the quaility/price!!
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#50097 - 09/24/05 02:42 AM
Re: Surefire Flashlights - G2 is FINE!!!
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Registered: 11/29/04
Posts: 21
Loc: okla.
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..unless it broke, how can one say the G2 is not fine?....If it works, is bright, & is lightweight, what's the problem? <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#50098 - 09/24/05 02:58 AM
Re: Surefire Flashlights
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Registered: 09/05/01
Posts: 384
Loc: Colorado Springs, CO
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Here is my thoughts on Surefire...
Are they overpriced??? That depends. Is a Mercedes or BMW overpriced compared to a Chevy?
That is the essence of the argument. Surefire lights are top-notch, but at a top-notch price. You can certainly find lights that perform almost as well for a lot less. But if you want that little extra bit of style, performance, and reliability, then you have to drop big coin for a Surefire.
You just have to ask yourself: are you a BMW guy, or a Chevy guy...
Just my $0.02
**EDIT** Disclaimer: I am a Chevy guy. If I had over $100 to drop on gear, there are things that I can use worse than a Surefire. I already have an Arc LS-L, Arc AAA, PT Attitude, Twintask 2L, PT Blast, Tigerlight, Hummer Shake Light, and a few others...
Edited by harrkev (09/24/05 03:03 AM)
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#50099 - 09/24/05 03:14 AM
Re: Surefire Flashlights
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Namu (Giant Tree)
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Registered: 09/16/05
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Loc: Florida, USA
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By the way, don't buy lights directly from surefire, dealer prices are quite a bit cheaper. Usually around $10-$20 cheaper, so look around. I learned that the hard way when I bought my first Emerson knife. Directly from the manufacturer...paid way too much. Then realized after my second Emerson that I wasn't all that happy with them in general. Point being, I rarely buy direct from the manufacturer anymore. But isn't funny when you find a dealer charging MORE than the manufacturer? <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#50100 - 09/24/05 05:39 AM
Re: Surefire Flashlights
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Anonymous
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BMW vs. Chevy? I'm perverse, I suppose. I'm a Land Rover guy. They don't call em 'Strange Rovers" for nothin.
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#50102 - 09/24/05 08:48 AM
Re: Surefire Flashlights
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Registered: 12/18/02
Posts: 1320
Loc: France
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Want a two stage 3 watt LED flashlight ? see this Nuwai light for instance ...
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