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#45775 - 08/03/05 09:29 PM Question for stainless and/or titanium cup owners
xbanker Offline
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Registered: 04/21/05
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Separate post so I don't drift the "Make My PSK Smaller" thread.

Several of you mentioned your stainless steel cup in that thread, much like one I currently own. I want to upgrade to a titanium cup (with folding handles), one in which a Nalgene bottle will nest.

My dilemma: single-wall or double-wall? I'm considering this...



...or equivalent, whatever will work with Nalgene bottle. I want DW because my experience with DW stainless cup is that it keeps contents warmer, longer (granted, downside is that it packs larger).

But, I'm wondering how a DW cup will perform when used as a cooking utensil, or to boil water. Does the DW-construction appreciably increase the time to boil/cook vs. SW-construction? For that matter, how does titanium itself influence cooking efficiency vs. SS, if at all? (I'm trying not to let the significant price difference influence my decision)

Thanks for your feedback.

Dan
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#45776 - 08/03/05 09:34 PM Re: Question for stainless and/or titanium cup owners
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Registered: 08/28/04
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The reason I carry a stainless cup is for boiling water in. A double-wall would be the exact wrong thing to use for that. The double wall is for insulation. That insulation can be used to keep what's in it warm, if it started out that way. But it will also keep the contents from getting the heat of the flame!
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#45777 - 08/03/05 11:36 PM Re: Question for stainless and/or titanium cup owners
frenchy Offline
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+ I'm not sure I would want to heat aDW cup .... What will hapen to the air between the two sealed walls ?
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#45778 - 08/04/05 02:06 AM Re: Question for stainless and/or titanium cup own
Todd W Offline
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I`m getting a larger snow peak 700 or 900 so I can use it to prepare meals with on my stove <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I also have that one you mentioned and boy is it light and nice. (Single wall).
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#45779 - 08/04/05 02:09 AM Re: Question for stainless and/or titanium cup owners
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I am not positive about this, but I don't think a 32 oz "wide mouth Nalgene bottle will nest inside the Snow-Peak 450. I have the 700 Ti cup and the 32oz bottle fits perfectly.

Good luck.
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#45780 - 08/04/05 02:29 AM Re: Question for stainless and/or titanium cup owners
Schwert Offline
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Registered: 03/13/02
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Loc: Seattle, Washington
Correct the 400 and 600 ml SnowPeak cups (single wall) do not fit on the bottom of the 1L Nalgene bottle.

The 700 fits perfectly and you must use a single wall for cooking. Here are 2--700mL SnowPeak Ti mugs and a bottle.



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#45781 - 08/04/05 04:06 AM Re: Question for stainless and/or titanium cup owners
benjammin Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
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Loc: Anchorage AK
Do not use double wall to cook in. Not only is it extremely inefficient, but there are hazards, such as are mentioned previous.

When I am in the business of eating in a survival situation, nothing I would put in my single wall cup is gonna be there long enough to cool off much. As soon as the liquid cools enough for me to gulp, if such is the case, that is what I do. This is much different from camping, even with a backpack.

I can maybe understand titanium, but why stainless? It is heavy, and in a survival situation I would think aluminum would be preferable. I've primarily used aluminum cookware in my backpack trips all my life. Heck, even just aluminum foil would be suitable.

I guess a stainless cup isn't much to consider weightwise. Certainly it will be more durable than aluminum.

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#45782 - 08/04/05 04:15 AM Re: Question for stainless and/or titanium cup owners
brian Offline
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I also go single wall but the sole purposes for my cup are cooking and boiling water in.
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#45783 - 08/04/05 04:25 AM Re: Question for stainless and/or titanium cup own
xbanker Offline
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Thanks guys for the valuable feedback. Clearly, double-wall ain't happenin' for cooking/boiling. So, it's a Snow Peak 700 titanium single-wall. Thanks again!

Dan
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#45784 - 08/04/05 04:16 PM Re: Question for stainless and/or titanium cup own
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Registered: 03/13/02
Posts: 905
Loc: Seattle, Washington
I picked up my SnowPeak 700's on ebay from a fellow in Washington. They were quite a bit better price than at the backpacking stores. I particularily like the lid which allows proper steeping of tea.

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