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#25013 - 02/23/04 06:34 PM First impression of the new Leathermans
Eugene Offline
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I know its quite soon, but looking at the information from the SHOT show report I don't like them. The screwdriver is what is killing it for me. I've used my tool adapter many times and have carried extra bits from time to time, some not so common such as a security torx used in older Compaq servers and desktops. With those flat hex bits I can't use other than what leatherman sells. I think they could have done a better job there.

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#25014 - 02/23/04 07:51 PM Re: First impression of the new Leathermans
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I still can't figure out the lanyard ring. I'm not sure the concept of a detactable ring is good. They got it right on some other models why is it so hard to duplicate on the wave.

I thought the titanium would make the wave lighter and therfore more EDC friendly. IMO it's still heavy, I wish the wave could be around 6oz.

I wonder about the addition of the bushings. How thick is this tool going to be.

The pliers look nice and the locking tools are a bonus.

But, the blade looks like a vast improvment. I don't think I'd buy the model w/ the 154CM blade. Although I think it's a step in the right direction.

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#25015 - 02/23/04 08:06 PM Re: First impression of the new Leathermans
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I could live with the detachable lanyard since I have yet to use it. The ones on the squirts suck, if you take out the ring and try to close it up then the tool next to it won't close all the way, guess they though everyone would hang them off of a keycahin.
With the bushings in the tools now I wonder if they are field repairable? I understod that part of the reason before it they had to have very precise tension to make the tools swing out like they do.

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#25016 - 02/23/04 08:21 PM Re: First impression of the new Leathermans
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I didn't mention the bit holder which you remarked about in your first post. I liked the tool adapter but never used in an EDC scenrio but I allways have it handy in my truck along w/ a 100 piece bit set from black & decker. I've used that combo many times.

I'd really have to look at the bit holder closly because I like having the tools prementaly attached to the tool. It seems it would be very easy to drop a bit and then have to search for it. The original wave tool adapter gives you flexiblity but you still have a small tool chest permentally built into your tool.

The problem I find with multi-tools is you never quite have the perfect tool.

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#25017 - 02/23/04 08:50 PM Re: First impression of the new Leathermans
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I was kind of underwhelmed, myself. The "Charge" series kind of look like Gerbers to me. <img src="images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

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#25018 - 02/24/04 12:06 AM Re: First impression of the new Leathermans
Eugene Offline
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The problem I see with the new wave is that while it seems like having the bit holder in the tool is a good idea it only stores one bit so you still have to carry the bits so I don't see a real advantage there. Then I see a disadvantage of having non standard bits (i.e. not 1/4"hex).

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#25019 - 02/24/04 02:15 PM Re: First impression of the new Leathermans
indoorsman Offline
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Registered: 05/10/03
Posts: 88
Loc: Ohio
I can't wait to see all the posts these new Leatherman's are going to generate! At first glance, they appear to have addressed a lot of the issues we Wave owners had/have. I'm not sure what I think of the screwdriver setup just yet. I guess I'll have to wait until I actually see one.

I wonder what Gerber's going to do in response? <img src="images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

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#25020 - 02/24/04 05:26 PM Re: First impression of the new Leathermans
garrett Offline
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Registered: 03/07/03
Posts: 249
Loc: North Carolina
they look cool, but I wont be buying a multi tool for 124 dollars. I know thats just the list price, but its still too high for me.
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#25021 - 02/25/04 01:49 AM Re: First impression of the new Leathermans
Paul810 Offline
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Registered: 03/02/03
Posts: 1428
Loc: NJ, USA
Ok, I know how we could make a better tool:

1. Start with the handle, pliers, and outer blade setup of the XTi

2. On the left handle inside put these tools:
scissors
can opener
phillips screwdriver from blast

On the right inside put:
the new small leatherman adapter
the flat-head screwdriver from the new wave
the lanyard hole

Now that would be a great tool, everything I need. I wish Leatherman had a customization shop (or atleast an easy way to dissasemble their tools)

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#25022 - 02/26/04 03:36 AM Re: Correction re Tool Adapter
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Leatherman emailed to advise that I had misunderstood their comments regarding the Tool Adapters. In fact, the current Tool Adapter for the Wave will fit all the new tools. So, the good news is that there is a Tool Adapter that works with the new tools. <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

The "Wave" Tool Adapter will still be available ($28 MSRP w/ case and bits), all the new tools having been designed to accommodate it. For that matter, the standard Tool Adapter will also continue to be available as it fits the SuperTool 200 that will continue to be available in the new line-up.


Edited by Doug_Ritter (02/26/04 02:02 PM)
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#25023 - 02/26/04 01:37 PM Re: Correction re Tool Adapter
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Didn't you say the adapter was discontinued though? That would say to me that those of us that have one can still use it but we won't be able to buy a replacement if we loose it (they are cheap, maybe I should stock up now). I've been meaning to e-mail them and ask about it.

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#25024 - 02/26/04 01:49 PM Re: Correction re Tool Adapter
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Sorry if my correction wasn't clear. The "Wave" Tool Adapter will still be available ($28 MSRP w/ case and bits), all the new tools having been designed to accomodate it. For that matter, the standard Tool Adapter will also continue to be available as it fits the still available SuperTool 200.
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#25025 - 02/26/04 02:03 PM Re: Correction re Tool Adapter
Eugene Offline
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Thats good to know. I personally like the looks of the one from the Blast. I think they should have went that route (slip over another screwdriver) with standard 1/4" hex drivers instead of doind the flat drivers so we could still use a variaty of bits and also a 1/4" square socker adapter.

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