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#186919 - 10/30/09 12:19 PM Sometime, all your training can't help
KG2V Offline

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Registered: 08/19/03
Posts: 1371
Loc: Queens, New York City
One of the blogs I read had this today
Sometimes, even with training, you just can't help
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#186921 - 10/30/09 12:41 PM Re: Sometime, all your training can't help [Re: KG2V]
Desperado Offline
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Registered: 11/01/08
Posts: 1530
Loc: DFW, Texas
+1 'nuf said.....
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#186924 - 10/30/09 12:51 PM Re: Sometime, all your training can't help [Re: Desperado]
Tyber Offline
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Registered: 04/27/09
Posts: 304
Loc: ST. Paul MN
+1

I know his feelings..



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#186926 - 10/30/09 01:14 PM Re: Sometime, all your training can't help [Re: Tyber]
Dagny Offline
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Registered: 11/25/08
Posts: 1918
Loc: Washington, DC

Razor's edge, indeed. A moving account.

Thanks for posting the link.




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#186928 - 10/30/09 01:34 PM Re: Sometime, all your training can't help [Re: Dagny]
7point82 Offline
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Registered: 11/24/05
Posts: 478
Loc: Orange Beach, AL
His story reminded me of an accident that I arrived at many years ago. An elderly female, alone in a very small sedan met a tractor-trailer at the intersection of two rural two-lane highways. (Two way stop and she failed to yield.) She was barely alive when I arrived and passed away before the Highway Patrol or any EMS could arrive. Her car was in horrible shape and I couldn't figure out how to get to her in order to do more than check vitals and offer some (hopefully) comforting words. One of the worst feelings I've ever experienced.

In the story retold in the blog the writer may not have been able to improve the outcome for the passenger but I believe that he did help.
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"There is not a man of us who does not at times need a helping hand to be stretched out to him, and then shame upon him who will not stretch out the helping hand to his brother." -Theodore Roosevelt

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#186931 - 10/30/09 01:53 PM Re: Sometime, all your training can't help [Re: 7point82]
kd7fqd Offline
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Registered: 08/07/05
Posts: 359
Loc: Saratoga Springs,Utah,USA
KG2V, The story has been repeated countless times, all around the world, we never know if our training will be of help or of use but that's why we train and train and train, because somewhere out there someone will need our help and we will be there. They may die but that's Gods call not ours, that last few seconds or minutes on earth will make a difference to them, enough to know that someone was there with them in the end.
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#186933 - 10/30/09 02:05 PM Re: Sometime, all your training can't help [Re: kd7fqd]
KG2V Offline

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Registered: 08/19/03
Posts: 1371
Loc: Queens, New York City
Yeah, I know - training does help, but sometimes, it doesn't.

I have had to unbuckle a dead person - went under the back of a truck , snapped off the ICC bar, hit the wheels hard enough to break them off the box - passing on the shoulder, blind hill.

Sigh
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#186935 - 10/30/09 02:39 PM Re: Sometime, all your training can't help [Re: KG2V]
armageddon_aviator Offline
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Registered: 10/30/07
Posts: 32
Loc: Israel
As a paramedic, I responded to dozens of similar calls during my career.

As horrible as it may sound, you get used to that kind of scenes.
And it's a good thing. We wouldn't be able to do our job in a professional manner otherwise.

Deep inside however, under our tough "anti-emotionial armor" the scars do not heal so well, many EMS workers suffer from post traumatic syndrome (many do not admit it or are not even aware of it).

A call involving a young kid who died in my arms still haunts me.

And the event happened 20 years ago...

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#186938 - 10/30/09 02:51 PM Re: Sometime, all your training can't help [Re: armageddon_aviator]
Pete Offline
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Registered: 02/20/09
Posts: 1372
It happens. People die - and it's upsetting. Just because you have first aid or EMT training does not mean that you can save them. Sometimes all that you do is to utter a prayer.

Pete

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#186960 - 10/30/09 04:43 PM Re: Sometime, all your training can't help [Re: NightHiker]
paramedicpete Offline
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Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 1920
Loc: Frederick, Maryland
I think I would fairly safe in saying for those of us who have dealt with dead or dying patients, that teens, children and infants remain in your thoughts forever. My paramedic partner of many years dropped out due to a very difficult call involving an infant.

Pete

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