SAS Tin Update

Old Faithful, back with another update <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

This time around I've added a pencil sharpener for tinder.

The only thing left I'd like to do to it is get ahold of some of those food saver vaccum things and include more medication, both in variety and quantity.



1 Gerber Babymilk Bags (5)
2 Tin Body, pocket chainsaw
3 Signal Mirror
4 Rite in the Rain paper, small pen, tin lid
5 Micropur MP-1 Purification Tablets
6 Altoids mini with lots of little things in it*
7 Mix of NATO wind/waterproof matches, and hurricane matches. Also includes trick relight candle wicks
8 Sewing thingie. I think fishing line would be better for this...
9 Compressed Sponge (Art grade... looking for medical grade though), finger loops for saw, 2 ranger bands (to help keep the tin shut)
10 Tinder Quik and pencil sharpener
11 More purification tablets
12 Meds (Immodium, No Doz)
13 Cardboard seperator (goes on top of saw to avoid abrading the other contents), leatherman micra, safety pins
14 LED lights (the kind used in fishing bobbers)
15 (from left to right) P-38, Bic Mini, Spark Lite, magnesium firestarter, relight candle, duct tape
16 Antibiotic ointment, iodine wipes, alcohol wipes
17 2x2 gauze
18 Fresnel magnifying lens, whistle
19 Sewing needles (straight and curved)
20 Gerber Ridge Knife, Belt clip removed
21 Micro lenser LED light
22 Straight Razors
23 Band aids, butterfly sutures
24 Sterile Scalpel Blade

*In the picture, the mini altoids tin shows the fishing line, squishy fishing lures, small split shot weights, swivels, small chain, hooks, and (not shown) 5 hooks with leaders. When the tin is packed, the duct tape, P-38, candle, and one of the small LED lights fit neatly in there

Great kit Burncycle! A little different than what I carry but same functions. Cheers!

Nice PSK!

I'll tell you one thing I really like a lot, and have been thinking about this myself... I like how you keep all the small fishing items together in the mini Altoids tin.

I'd like to do the same, and compartmentalize and/or package separate items in smaller containers within my PSK. This probably wouldn't be necessary for all items, or in a PSK where there are only a few items, but it could help in a detailed PSK.

My main reasoning for this came from opening my PSK tin up when my fingers were cold, and a little numb. I popped the lid and the contents went everywhere. I could imagine something similar happening if I were wearing gloves or had to open the kit one handed.

Granted once you start to put boxes within boxes, space becomes an issue, but as I mentioned before I don't think it would be necessary for all items.

How big is the SAS tin, Burncycle?

I seen this picture in other forum(and some more).
But I can´t rember the site.

How big is your main tin, and were did you get it?

I'm using a Frnech?Belgian? mess kit from the 50s(?), but that looks like a much better option.

It started out as a Pro Force combat survival kit (generic SAS tin thing).
I didn't get it from here, but it shows a decent picture: http://www.diamondbacktactical.com/Proforce-Combat-Survival-Kit-P494C79.aspx

Rough measurements... it's about 5" x 3.6" x 1.125" (interior depth)

I'd reccomend blister packed meds instead of the kind in the pic, they're more durable and much more space efficient.

Where's the duct tape?

Where did you get the saw?

Duct tape is #15 (group) just to the right of the green candle.


Pocket Chainsaw:
http://www.pocketchainsaw.com

I'm hoping to get my hands on a foodsaver vaccum thing for meds <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Duct tape is on the right side under number 15

Yep <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I got my saw locally (PX) but you can probably find them online

What is item #14. An LED light? That small? I mean....are those two things with a red tip LED lights?

WHERE DO YOU GET THEM! He asks salivating. How long do they last?

-Nim

The Pocket Chain Saw web site lists the weight as 4.5 lbs. Seems kind of heavy for a small kit. Serious pocket sag!

Cant really understand the need for the pencil sharpener. Heck, you have a knife in there. I don't even use pencil sharpeners to sharpen pencils! (plus my kids think its cool when dad sharpens pencils with a kinfe - it DOES get me some looks at work sometimes, but I try to be descrete about it. I HAVE gotten my entire department comfortable with the fact I carry a knife, and 75% of the people in the department now do too!

It's not that heavy. My tin is 1 lbs 8 oz in total

I think that's for a box of 12. The web site is wholesale I believe. Retail sites list them at 1lb.

Gotta read more carefully in the future. 4lbs did seem kind of heavy for a single chain saw blade of the "pocket" variety. Since I have a small axe in my "truck tools" kit, and a larger one at home, I never really considered it worthwhile to add one of these to my kit(s). If I was a trekker or woodsman, I might have to change my way of thinking.
In an urban surivival environment, it's use would be limited. Any "logs" small enough to cut with this device could be easily picked up and moved out of the way. It would also be difficult if not impossible to brace a 4 or 5" log enough to allow you to cut it with a pulling motion. With a real chain saw you are pushing towards the wood, which helps to keep it in place. You could probably cut down small "standing" trees, but I doubt I'd need a "lodge pole" in an urban/suburban environment.

You may not want to cut logs in the urban environment, but it could come in handy to cut 2X4s for shelter building/repair and/or egress/rescue from a downed building or clearing a roadway from a downed tree.

The saw is just another option/tool to consider when putting together equipment/supplies/kits.

Pete

They are bobber lights, I think SgtMike found them.

Supposedly, you can get them at Walmart, but the ones along my travels don't have them. I found them at Cabela's, but I just can't justify the shipping to myself for just those little guys.

4x4s are too big for the saw in my Leatherman or SAK. If you are near a lot of wood post construction, this might not be a horrible thing for the bug out bag.

I wonder if you could get a metal grade blade set up like this. I've seen chain-type saws that can do aluminum and maybe steel.

I found them at a Dick's Sporting Goods. About $3 if I remember correctly. My local Walmart doesn't carry them either.

My local Wal-Mart does carry the small bobber lights....it must depend on your locale....I'm within an hour of four decent sized lakes.

I live in Florida, about five miles from the coast. The only lighted bobbers that we have here take buttom cells (the same ones found in laser pointers and lots of cheap toys). So even though I am almost literally surrounded by water, no lights here.