Mora Clipper 860 knife

I picked up a new Mora Clipper 860 today. I have owned a few Mora's over the years and when I seen this knife for a decent price, I could not pass on it.

As with most Mora knives, the plastic sheath is standard and while the knife snaps in snugly to the sheath, I will feel a bit more comfortable when I replace the sheath with one which I will be making this weekend.




I like the knurled rubber grip pattern on the knife and this will help in keeping the knife from slipping in the hands during wet conditions.


Typical good quality that we have come to expect from Mora. These knives have to be one of the best investments you can make for under $20.00



This knife will be going into my dual purpose urban/wilderness EDC. Once pushed down into the kit bag, it fits perfectly and allows the zipper free movement with no catching or binding.

It looks like a really good knife for the money. I don't have that exact knife, but my experience with Mora is all good. The sheath is form-fitting and weightless, not so bad if you're stuffing the knife into your kit. Not that it's any of my business, but it looks like the tweezers is missing from your SAK. You can buy them cheap here: http://www.bladematrix.tv/index.asp

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Based on your description, it appears that you intend to carry the knife inside the kit bag in urban and wilderness areas. I do not know in which state you reside, but you may wish to confirm that you will not be violating any concealed carry laws by carrying in this manner. For example, California Penal Code section 12020(a)(4) prohibits the concealed carry of a dirk or dagger on the person. A fixed blade knife would be considered a dirk or dagger. Mind you, in California it is perfectly legal to openly carry a dirk or dagger suspended from your belt and a folder is not considered a dirk or dagger.

And yeah, I just bought two Moras (511s) for emergency kit use, and I agree they are a phenomenal value for the money.

I like em too!

The bag is Mountain Co-Op. They are a Canadian chain, similiar to EMS or REI. You never find their gear south of the border. Except in core urban areas, I'd think Canadian laws are about like Vermont laws- "did you stick anyone with it? Did you plan on sticking anyone with it? Don't go in an airport, school or court house with it, ok?"

Ironraven is on target by all accounts. Mec brand is very popular here and no Leo gives it a second look. Besides, the EDC bag is stored in a larger backpack which contains everyday work items such as a laptop, camera, sweater etc. As for the knife being concealed, it is all about common sense. Don't carry it where it should not be carried...in these circumstances, the trunk of the car is perfectly fine.

Have been meaning to put my order in at Ragweed Forge, thanks for the prod.

Sound advice, but I believe dirks/daggers are double edged. Which Mora's certainly aren't. I think there's also a CA law that prohibits concealed knives though over 4" (or maybe that was just folders).

Mec is a Candian version of REI
The bag is known as the 'Vancouver handbag' mec shoudler bag

That and the soft briefcase are so common north of the border that Canadian airports now accept them as proof of residency - if you are wearing goretex and carrying one of these you can bypass the passport check.

Most of canada is pretty sensible, wearing hiking gear and heading into the woods with one of these is fine. Although I probably wouldn't EDC one in my briefcase.

CA knife law considers any fixed blade a "dirk or dagger", regardless of edges. Open carry (in a sheath) is fine, concealed carry is prohibited.

There is no limit on length for a folding knife in CA law for "concealed" (ie, in a pocket) carry, provided it is not "self-opening" (a complex subject that boils down to "is it a switchblade?").

There are length limits for schools and universities/colleges.

Courthouses, afaik, still prohibit all knives, regardless of blade length.

A few SoCal cities also have local limitations on blade length. LA, for example, has a 3" limit.

(I'm not a lawyer, this is just a very relevant subject for me. )

So, if you come to California, a fixed blade in a bag is a felony.

I bought some of those, and I highly recommend them for anyone who wants to do pick up a few cheap fixed blade knives for redundancy - placing one in different vehicles, for example. the sheath is lousy but as I've said before they keep you from getting poked when you are rummaging around in your center console

If you get them from SG make sure you troll the intarwebz, I can usually get $10 off a $20 purchase that way, which at least pays for the shipping.

No aff.

But, outside of sensitive areas, (1000 ft around schools etc.)
you can carry a shotgun in a guitar case. But not a DR's
mini knife in an altoids tin!

You are close. My EDC kit bag is the MEC Bon Vivant Shoulder Bag which is a bit smaller.

So if I go to a Walmart in Cal. and buy a set of steak knives, am I in violation of the law if I carry them out to my car in a walmart bag? Or must I open the package prior to leaving the store and stick them all in my belt?

In most cases you'll be fine in regard's to purchasing Knives at WalMart in The Republic of California,& Walking to your vehicle,thereof!Just be SURE,You are NOT wearing Kangaroo Leather,ANYTHING,as Kangaroo Leather is Illegal to Own/Sell in This Beloved State of The Union,Hide them Brownings if you got em'! LOL!

OK, guys, I was trying to be subtle last night.

Judging anything outside of California relative to the legality of it in California is kinda silly. Or to any major metro areas. The rest of the world is a little different.

Teslinhiker, all a knife has to do is cut. That one looks like it'll cut.

You could do worse at several times the price.

Inexpensive, as long as it is still functional means you can afford a good knife on a tight budget and then, when finances allow, buy them by the handful so there is always a good knife around.

You can also hand them out if the situation calls for it. A half-dozen people with good knives is better than a single person with six knives.

I have a Clipper and I like it a lot. Great little cutter that feels really nice my hand. Just curious, what did you pay for it? Is there a smokin' deal out there somewhere?

I'm watching for the big brother version of the Clipper, the Mora Craftline Allround. Same shape but a beefier blade.

I purchased my knife locally for $18.95. Unfortunately it was EOS (end of stock) as I wanted 2 of them. I ordered another knife of the same model ($22.99 though) from Workwear Canada of which I have a post office parcel notification slip so I will pick it up Monday after work.

BTW, MEC has the Frost River knife (Mora Scout) for $19.75. I have one of these knifes also and although I now prefer the Clipper, it is still a very good knife for the price.

The Canadian Criminal Code provides:

S. 2 “weapon”
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“weapon” means any thing used, designed to be used or intended for use
(a) in causing death or injury to any person, or
(b) for the purpose of threatening or intimidating any person
and, without restricting the generality of the foregoing, includes a firearm;

90. (1) Every person commits an offence who carries a weapon, a prohibited device or any prohibited ammunition concealed, unless the person is authorized under the Firearms Act to carry it concealed.
Punishment
(2) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1)
(a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; or
(b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.

On the other hand (as succinctly summarized by Ironraven), Vermont law criminalizes concealed carry of a deadly weapon only when there is intent or in prohibited locations:

Ch. 85 Weapons - T.13-4003... A person who carries
a dangerous or deadly weapon, openly or concealed, with
the intent or avowed purpose of injuring a fellow man, or
who carries a dangerous or deadly weapon within any state
institution... or grounds [thereof]... shall be
imprisoned... or fined.
(emphasis added)

My original point stands, do some research and decide how to act based on your conclusions. I do not know how Canadian courts interpret the above and I do not know how every Canadian law enforcement officer interprets the above. I do know that if I was asked by an LEO why I was carrying a concealed knife, I would not want my answer to be: "Because somebody on the internet said it was ok." California is not the only state that enacts silly laws.

Canadian courts have long held the opinion that if a knife is concealed, that it is not necessarily a crime as this does not necessarily mean intent. If this was the case, any person carrying a pocket knife or work related box cutter in their coat pocket or a hockey skate in a equipment bag would then be guilty.

In any case, I'll take a chance on my country's law and as a matter of fact I will ask at the RCMP community office the next time I am there.

In the meantime, I'll keep carrying my knife the way I see fit to, so can you stop the preaching and let the thread get back on track?

A Clipper isn't much of a worry. On this side of the 49th it's a tool -- unless you demonstrate intent to use it otherwise.

Some bars and ticketed venues/events will require you to check it at the door or return it to your vehicle. And if you wave it around like a crazy person in public, or use it in an altercation, you will get some personalized hands-on attention from the local constabulary.

But carried discreetly and used sanely? Totally a non-issue.

-Doug, who knows where Teslin is

Yukon Territory, Canada?

There unfortunately isn't a good Canadian source for Mora knives, so I get mine from u.s.

The river knife at MEC has very small handle length and diameter, my hand get cramps when I use them longer than a minute. Also the plastic button on strap will break pretty quick, but you can heat up the black part, squeeze them a bit so the nubs hold knife in very securely.

I've seen 'em at Camper's Village in Calgary & some models are available here:
http://www.workwearcanada.com/products/category.cfm?category=9

Like, Fasteer, I also recommend Workwear Canada. Paul is a good person and very prompt with answering any questions etc.

Knife Zone is another place to try. The website does not show Mora knives, but they have quite an extensive offline catalog that can ordered from.

I remember looking at knifezone a long time ago for other knives, if those price are any indication on mora's price, I can probably get 2 or 3 from ragweed forge for the price of 1. Seems he is still in the days of CAD is 60 cents to a dollar.

There's a guy selling the carbon steel version on eBay for $11.49 plus $3.75 shipping. It's $1.00 extra shipping for for each additional knife ordered. The site says he has more than 10 to sell. Just log onto eBay and locate this guy....no affiliation

Mora 840-MG Clipper Carbon Steel Knife with Sheath
Seller: cocoluna1004